tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post7228975899985362254..comments2024-02-18T13:53:30.168-08:00Comments on Surgeonsblog: FunnymanSid Schwabhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comBlogger76125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-64346591571918546652009-01-19T23:43:00.000-08:002009-01-19T23:43:00.000-08:00I like the line from the movie the usual suspects,...I like the line from the movie the usual suspects, " The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the world he didn't exist, and just like that, he's gone...."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-22071716671217536162009-01-16T13:22:00.000-08:002009-01-16T13:22:00.000-08:00HA - I removed the previous post because I had too...HA - I removed the previous post because I had too many misspellings and I looked like an uneducated boob.<BR/><BR/>To sum it up:<BR/>I agree 100% with Dr. Schwab.<BR/><BR/>Whatever questions/concerns I have with religion/faith I will need to muddle through on my own. Our founding fathers had the foresight (God given or Inspired I might add) to write into our Constitution that we may all believe what we choose to believe - as long as we harm no one and as long as do not make a nuisance of ourselves. But - keep it out of government, keep it out of school, and keep it out of your neighbors face unless you are invited in for a discussion about the topic.<BR/><BR/>Agnostic - yes indeed. My personal beliefs are just that - personal. There is a God - but what my definition of God is and how He/She/It fits into things is as individual as my DNA.Rebecca.Boardmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13524760111243320851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-83937500812958540432009-01-16T13:14:00.000-08:002009-01-16T13:14:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Rebecca.Boardmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13524760111243320851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-35857467836213592232008-03-03T19:03:00.000-08:002008-03-03T19:03:00.000-08:00Ugo...it's called "faith".Ugo...it's called "faith".SeaSprayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906503090688697222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-36626193421711394702008-03-03T18:30:00.000-08:002008-03-03T18:30:00.000-08:00anonymous: I think I explained why I feel less tol...anonymous: I think I explained why I feel less tolerant of late. But I don't think it's true that atheists "provoke." They point out the obvious fallacies, and some find it too provocative. It's like Harry Truman said about the "give 'em hell" moniker: "I don't give them hell. I speak the truth, and they think it's hell." And I'd say (in fact, I did say) that it's superior ethics to behave properly only because it's right, rather than because of belief in eternal reward or perpetual punishment. Much superior. On the other hand, as another commenter said, if the result is the same, what's the difference? Well, not much, other than it's more ethical. And why do you need to invoke God if you accept that the universe could have always existed? To "create" something that always existed seems an oxymoron. Still, I'm happy to have believers believe whatever they need to believe to survive, as long as they don't insist that those beliefs become accepted by others.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-60565849386645431402008-03-03T18:13:00.000-08:002008-03-03T18:13:00.000-08:00To the first commentator: he could wait for the su...To the first commentator: he could wait for the super hot burrito to cool down.<BR/><BR/>A word of support for our "Young Earthers": God can make something that has the quality of having always existed. <BR/><BR/>Q.Why do atheists always provoke rather than practice tolerance? A.Because they have inferior ethics.<BR/><BR/>Where did the big bang material come from? Consult Hitchens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-76273325604808628532008-03-03T00:06:00.000-08:002008-03-03T00:06:00.000-08:00@Anonymous:"I do believe that people have free wil...@Anonymous:<BR/><BR/>"I do believe that people have free will and the power of choice. I do think that creationism, the Big Bang Theory and evolution should all be taught."<BR/><BR/>But that is _exactly_ the problem. Teaching creationism, which is most definitely _not_ science, not even in it's latest "ID" incarnation, in the science classroom amounts to nothing less than forced religious indoctrination.<BR/><BR/>This is precisely why we atheists are so angry at religious people. If they were content of preaching in their houses and churches, so be it. But when you try to pass your special brand of delusion for science, that's when we see red we have to say "STOP!" We don't want you to indoctrinate our children in stupidity and delusion. We don't want you to poison their minds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-52912253880226438852008-03-02T23:54:00.000-08:002008-03-02T23:54:00.000-08:00@SeaSpray:"And it is not just one little thing...t...@SeaSpray:<BR/><BR/>"And it is not just one little thing...there are multiple things learned, witnessed, experienced. When something that powerful is internalized into your being which is where your spirit is...you can't help to feel the connection and understanding."<BR/><BR/>It's called "delusion".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-21709375306546901532008-03-01T14:19:00.000-08:002008-03-01T14:19:00.000-08:00*I just want to say first that I am in no way sing...*I just want to say first that I am in no way singling out the 2 people involved in the missions that I mention, over any of the other people of all faiths, past and present who have also helped people in need through various means and circumstances.<BR/>*I used quotes from an article (2002) on the 1st page I googled. I have a wicked sore throat brewing or I would’ve taken the time to search for something more current. <BR/>The following is a quote from a commenter to this post: "And that's the only religious position I feel like defending. If there is a God, He favors atheists. Why? Because they are cruising around in His world, doing the best they can and coming to the only workable conclusion with the tools He gave them. They don't snivel and whine when things don't work out, they don't ask for handouts or guidance, and they don't go around trying to speak in his name. When God made atheists, dammit if they didn't hit the ground running!"<BR/><BR/>First of all, God through his word states that he is "no respecter of persons." God loves us ALL equally...believer and nonbeliever.<BR/><BR/>There are many wonderful people of ALL faiths doing wonderful work in the name of God. They sacrifice their time, energy, money, and sometimes their lives for the purpose of helping other people. <BR/>One DOES NOT have to believe in God to do good...but certainly because one does believe in God does not preclude them from the ability to ever do good. Where is the logic in that?<BR/><BR/>As far as asking for handouts...those handouts help to feed, house and clothe the poor, bringing medicine and education to them as well as dig wells, build hospitals, schools and so much more. Even bringing shoe boxes of toys, tooth brushes and school supplies to poverty stricken children for Christmas.<BR/><BR/>One organization I am thinking of is Sumaritan’s Purse. The following is a quote from an article on the web: “Samaritan’s Purse, headed by Franklin Graham, the son of evangelist Billy Graham, works in more than 100 countries around the world, helping victims of disasters, war, poverty, disease, famine, and persecution. In 2000 and 2001, Samaritan’s Purse was recognized by SmartMoney magazine as the most efficient religious charity in the United States.”<BR/><BR/>Here is just one example of how people of faith risk their lives for the good of their fellow man: ”BOONE, N.C., Sept. 26, 2002—The Government of Sudan’s jet bombers killed 13 civilians—including four children—in an attack Saturday, Sept. 21, on Lui, a village in southern Sudan where Boone, N.C.-based Samaritan’s Purse, an international Christian relief organization, operates a hospital." (Hasn’t our own government been remiss in getting involved here and yet these people are living it…risking their lives, everyday with the people in Sudan?)<BR/> <BR/>(March 4th, 2000- the hospital was bombed along with 8 other targets in the village.)<BR/><BR/>“The 80-bed surgical hospital in Lui, opened by Samaritan’s Purse in 1997, is the only advanced medical care for the more than 400,000 people who live within a two-week walk of Lui. More than 40 international doctors have served there, including Sen. Bill Frist (R-Tenn.). Besides the hospital, the only other significant building in Lui is an Anglican church damaged by bombs during Christmas week of 2000.” <BR/><BR/>I did try to find something current about the hospital today but unable to find anything, but as I stated previously…I am feeling under the weather. Anyone interested could go directly to the Samaritan’s Purse site to learn more about the organization.<BR/><BR/>How about Mother Theresa who dedicated her life to helping the poor in India and was recognized for her efforts by being awarded with the Nobel Peace Prize?<BR/><BR/>These people are't/weren't atheists.<BR/><BR/>And yes...there has been corruption through the ages in the church, but you have that in every profession because you are dealing with fallible humans making wrong and greedy choices.<BR/><BR/>Church missions as well as individual faith based missions do a lot of good around the world and if they ever stopped...there would be millions and millions more people suffering. Atheists are in the minority as compared to the number of people of all faiths.<BR/><BR/> Since atheists are in the minority,even if every single atheist were to kick in their resources of time, money, talents and energy for charity,I don't see how they could possibly accomplish all the good that people of all faiths have accomplished, especially without ever ASKING for a donation in whatever form. We don't live in a vacuum and we need each other… regardless of chosen faiths or not.<BR/><BR/>I hope this didn’t offend anyone. As always I welcome correction or additional enlightenment if I have misunderstood or misrepresented anything here. :)SeaSprayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906503090688697222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-87147251409766391182008-03-01T10:34:00.000-08:002008-03-01T10:34:00.000-08:00Thank you for using the word "contumelious." For ...Thank you for using the word "contumelious." For the first time in quite a while, I had to go to the dictionary to completely appreciate a blog post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-64265822835145284712008-02-28T11:03:00.000-08:002008-02-28T11:03:00.000-08:00Hi Anonymous 12:16am- I am sorry to hear you feel ...Hi Anonymous 12:16am- I am sorry to hear you feel that way about all people of faith.<BR/><BR/>Generalizations aren't fair or accurate and logically we know that everyone doesn't always do something or never does something. <BR/><BR/>My head was about to implode with all the things I wanted to share as I read through your statements. :)<BR/><BR/>In response to what you said here: "Too bad these books don't spend chapters and chapters talking about how important it is to love and accept, to be tolerant and kind, to understand...oh right..that's the part the fundamental believers always skip over."<BR/><BR/>Read about the things Jesus actually said and did. Read the new testament. The chapter of John is known as the love chapter. But read the new testament and then know that is the example people that profess their faith in Christ are supposed to follow. People make mistakes. His message was about love...his love for mankind...so much so that he willingly sacrificed his own life even though he had done nothing wrong. He was given opportunity to get out of the situation and save his life but he did not defend himself at all. He also didn't take anyone with him. He died alone for the faith. He said he came to set the captives free (from legalism is my understanding)he said the greatest commandment was to love your neighbor as much as you love yourself. If someone strikes you..turn and give them the other cheek. if you have two coats, give one away. He healed the sick, fed the poor and hung out with the outcasts and unpopular. he encouraged the people to not worry or be afraid but in faith to know that God loves them and will look out for them. he never said there wouldn't be persecutions and problems but to know that through those times God was still with them and to know that there is hope. His message was love and that all people are valuable in God's sight. And yes he talked about the importance of salvation. BUT...he did not force it on anyone. <BR/><BR/>None of that is verbatim as I admittedly am being lazy right now in looking up exact quotes.<BR/><BR/>Also, If a Muslim came to my door to convert me...I would do what I always do with a Jehovah's Witness. I would thank them for their concern and time and wish them well. Respectfully and with a warm smile. <BR/><BR/>Somewhere either in the post or comments (being lazy again - just so much to read through now) someone commented on Christians try to convert people so they can earn rewards in heaven.<BR/><BR/>No...that is not the reason they evangelize and try to get the word out. <BR/><BR/>First of all if you interviewed various Christians you would find that some believe there is a hell and some don't. There are many denominations and degrees (not sure that is the word to use)of faith.<BR/><BR/>But for the ones who do believe the Teachings of Jesus when he warned people about it...THAT is why they do it.<BR/><BR/>They believe that if you don't ask Christ to be your savior, that you will miss out on eternal salvation and yes...spend eternity in hell.<BR/><BR/>Just remember..."I" didn't write the book...I am only explaining from my perspective. And boy oh boy...isn't that a line drawn in the sand and I believe why people are offended by this message. You can mention any other God and no one is offended but if you say the word Jesus and not as a swear word...people start backing out of the room and now days I guess you could even say it's not even PC. The latter is just an observation and not at all saying other people think that.<BR/><BR/>But I digress.<BR/><BR/>So the reason Christians who believe in both heaven and hell try to convert people is because to them...it is akin to rescuing someone in a burning building. They care about there fellow man and are trying to save others and point the way to eternal life in heaven.<BR/><BR/>I am no expert...that is only my understanding. If anyone out there thinks I misrepresented something then please correct me. I would never want to perpetuate any thing that is not true or misrepresent Christians.<BR/><BR/>BTW...if anyone thinks I am a holier than thou type...LOL...suffice it to know I am as human as the next person and consider myself a work in progress. :)SeaSprayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906503090688697222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-40950923758155314022008-02-28T00:16:00.000-08:002008-02-28T00:16:00.000-08:00Personally I believe that the religious have two r...Personally I believe that the religious have two rights. The right to go to church and the right to preach in their home. The moment they breach that into a public area I think they should be hospitalized. Not only for being a believer but for believing it's a great idea to bore the butt off of complete strangers. Only a delusional person believes that confronting and invading another persons private space is the definition of "good works".<BR/>We have to protect them from someone who cannot resist the urge to beat them senseless with their copy of the watchtower.<BR/>To those that come to your door spouting their delusions I believe we have the right to defend ourselves and shooting them should be legal. I think that should keep the Latter day saints and their jehovah witness friends at bay for a while.<BR/>See I don't believe you do have the right to come into public spouting your very own delusions...cause come on all you good christians tell us how you would feel if a Muslim knocked on your door and presented you with a copy of the Koran and rolled out their prayer rug on your front step...<BR/>I can just hear you all defending it as free speech hahahahahahaha. Scalpel would probably shoot them thinking he was being attacked by Osama.<BR/>The fact is all religious people are hypocrites. I haven't met a "good christian" yet. All the ones I have met are just like scalpel and his buddies.<BR/>There is no difference between a "good christian" and a radical muslim. Both groups hate and hate well. Hell, both groups have made hate an art form and both groups can justify their hate with bible verses.<BR/>That is the real reason people just love religion. Their books gives them backup when they go about the business of murdering. Their books explain oh so clearly who needs killing and why.<BR/>Religion is permission to hate.<BR/>And boy aren't we very, very good at hating anyone or anything that ain't us.<BR/>Too bad these books don't spend chapters and chapters talking about how important it is to love and accept, to be tolerant and kind, to understand...oh right..that's the part the fundamental believers always skip over. <BR/>And to scalpel I am so glad it thrills you that George Bush killed people, nothing like bombing children in their bed is there? Don't you just feel so damn safe? I mean it's really all about you isn't it? I would hate for you to feel uneasy about anything..is there anyone else who needs murdering so you can sleep easier? Just ask George, I am sure he would be happy to kill a few hundred thousand more. I mean it's only fair right? Those SAUDI men that killed three thousand Americans should equal killing a few hundred thousand Iraqi and Afghani woman and children and oh about four thousand young American men and women.<BR/>I mean it's an eye for an eye right? So what if they killed three thousand and we killed three hundred thousand. It's just to make the world a much safer place...well only for Americans. The rest of the world can cower in terror cause America is just so bad ass and God wants it that way.We know this because God told George.<BR/><BR/>And what makes it all even juicier is the fundamentals have infiltrated the medical system. Soon you wont be able to get an abortion anywhere, birth control will be impossible to find, how about getting your tubes tied? Nope..the list will be endless because God told your doctor and your nurse and your pharmacist they aren't allowed to provide care..God will soon be everyones doctor..isn't that great!!!Don't worry about those doctors who try to provide the care. The good christians will murder them in their own kitchens in front of their wives and children.That'll teach 'em.<BR/>Don't it just make you feel so safe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-76002671111927537572008-02-27T21:23:00.000-08:002008-02-27T21:23:00.000-08:00Sid: Your right I don't disagree with that. I do ...Sid: Your right I don't disagree with that. I do believe that people have free will and the power of choice. I do think that creationism, the Big Bang Theory and evolution should all be taught. My kids know it. I believe in laying out all the options. I've never spoken with God directly. I can't say if someone did or didn't speak to Him since I have no experience in that. I do agree that politics should not use religion to force their ideals on others. That can get sticky. Ammending the Constitution is a very big thing. When do you draw the line? A dear friend of mind told me to each year read the Constitution, Bill of Rights as it will remind of the great nation that I live in (he is now a US citizen) Thank goodness for the first amendment that addresses the rights of freedom of religion that prohibits Congress to excercise the right over another religion to protect the freedom of religion. That is why you and I can say what we please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-16451119819030101702008-02-27T20:17:00.000-08:002008-02-27T20:17:00.000-08:00The statement, if poorly worded, was in the contex...The statement, if poorly worded, was in the context of several prior comments: my point was that it's when religion becomes part of the political process that it's dangerous: whether it's trying to get creationism into schools and evolution out, or wanting to amend the Constitution to keep some people from having rights, or when presidents think God tells them to invade Iraq, or people fly into buildings to carry out God's will. That's what I meant. The comment that followed mine, saying I was against free speech was gratuitous, and surely must have known what I actually meant. I'll say it again: I'm perfectly fine with religion and religious people. There's a minister in my family. I've said it seems to help face critical illness, etc. I'm not fine with people who need to force their religion onto others, or who use it as a reason to attack or degrade others. I bet you don't disagree with that.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-46874577233641991772008-02-27T17:58:00.000-08:002008-02-27T17:58:00.000-08:00"Similarly, if we can keep religion in the homes a..."Similarly, if we can keep religion in the homes and churches, it might well be enough to protect our society."<BR/><BR/>Please say you didn't say that. I've always valued and respected your opinion.But that statement lost value. Protect from what? Our founding fathers found the ability to pursue happiness was quite important. A major reason for our declaration of independence was freedom of speech. Now you taint it with a statement denying someone their ability to express their religion. I'm the former agnostic now Methodist that is speechless. I'm not trying to take away your rights please do not try to take away mine. I do understand where you come from as I've been there. I don't want someone to take away your, mine, anyone's ability to find truth. No matter what the outcome might be. Sorry, this gets me heated. I don't try to beat my religion into someone's head/heart but I want stand for people who don't allow me to expres myself. This is an area where me, and all my other religious and non-religious friends agree. I can play devil's advocate here and say well put your statement to your blog. This is a public domain so keep it out and I'm protected as well. Just depends on how you see it. No disrespect intended just my ability to vent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-17731966544924031212008-02-27T15:42:00.000-08:002008-02-27T15:42:00.000-08:00OK freedom of speech only allowed in homes and chu...OK freedom of speech only allowed in homes and churches. I won't taint this comments page any longer.<BR/><BR/>But I do very much enjoy reading your medical posts Doc. Keep up the good work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-49035665451731982002008-02-27T15:36:00.000-08:002008-02-27T15:36:00.000-08:00My point was answering your comment about not know...My point was answering your comment about not knowing religious people who kill. The people to whom I referred in the ER were quoting the bible, even as they were being held down by the cops. I don't know that religion causes insanity, nor did I say that. It could well be the other way around: the belief in imaginary things, hearing voices, creating complex but incoherent belief-systems are characteristics of paranoid schizophrenia. And whaddya know? Of religion, too. I don't think we can ban insanity, much as it would be desirable. We can treat it, though. Similarly, if we can keep religion in the homes and churches, it might well be enough to protect our society.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-37680994891559381392008-02-27T15:29:00.000-08:002008-02-27T15:29:00.000-08:00Specifically then, what is your point?If religion ...Specifically then, what is your point?<BR/><BR/>If religion causes insanity surely we are ethically required to ban it.<BR/><BR/>And was Bush responsible if he was hearing voices?<BR/><BR/>Are ER fanatics typically religious or on meth benders?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-27693759720477222072008-02-27T15:25:00.000-08:002008-02-27T15:25:00.000-08:00Working in emergency rooms, I in fact have met a c...Working in emergency rooms, I in fact have met a couple. And I've heard of some, too. Jim Jones; Osama bin Laden; the folks in Salem, MA; James C Kopp; the Crusaders; the Spanish Inquisitors. The KKK. The people who killed Matthew Shepherd... <BR/><BR/>And it was George Bush himself who said God spoke to him about invading Iraq.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-53912910578268303132008-02-27T14:56:00.000-08:002008-02-27T14:56:00.000-08:00Yeah, I dislike religous fanatics who go round kil...Yeah, I dislike religous fanatics who go round killing people as well. Can't say I've ever met any in real life though, and I've met a lot of people.<BR/><BR/>About the Iraq invasion thing: it didn't happen because of god's words. And if it did does this mean that Bush is insane and not responsible for his actions? Isn't that a medical problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-8700989340896753282008-02-27T14:26:00.000-08:002008-02-27T14:26:00.000-08:00Anonymous:I would not ban religion. I believe in f...Anonymous:<BR/>I would not ban religion. I believe in free speech. The reason some medical treatments are found ineffective is that they are subjected to testing and scientific analysis. The ones that weren't in the past, are now. That's a good thing. I get upset only at the religious failures who try to foist their beliefs on others, or who use their beliefs to harm others or deny them their rights. Or who use them to justify invading other countries. If a person needs to believe magical and contradictory things to get through life, it's fine by me; really and truly. As long as it's between them and their religion. It's when their certainty in their beliefs is threatened by the other beliefs of others that we get into problems. Big ones. Religion may well be a "powerful inspiration to lead a good life." It's also been a justification for some of the worst atrocities in the history of the world. That's not just "failing."Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-23069425001403515732008-02-27T14:17:00.000-08:002008-02-27T14:17:00.000-08:00Seaspray (and with all due respect to Sid, I hope ...Seaspray (and with all due respect to Sid, I hope you don't mind me jumping in here), as a physician and a scientist who has jumped between believing and not believing at various stages of my life.<BR/><BR/>"Why with all their science background do they still believe in God?"<BR/><BR/>Albert Einstein wrote:<BR/>"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/1018_041018_science_religion.html" REL="nofollow"><BR/>This link</A> is to a national geographic article on science and religion.<BR/><BR/>"Like other scientists of faith, Primack, who is Jewish and reads the Bible regularly, argues that the Bible must not be taken literally, but should be read allegorically."<BR/><BR/>As I mentioned in an earlier comment on this post "..most people interpret their religion in a way that suits them, meaning they may make concessions or rationalizations. For example birth control in Catholicism. Which is fine since it seems that the people who tend to interpret their religious books literally are the ones that tend to be extremists.<BR/><BR/>I hope the above link provides some insight to your question Seaspray.mark's tailshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08097539019772913051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-39009963295326207972008-02-27T13:47:00.000-08:002008-02-27T13:47:00.000-08:00Religion is the most powerful inspiration to lead ...Religion is the most powerful inspiration to lead a good life. Even more so than money in my opinion. Of course it depends what we mean by good.<BR/><BR/>The world would be better if more people went by "Treat others as you would like to be treated" instead of "Show me the money!". <BR/><BR/>Do you think we should ban religion like China and Russia? Or do you you believe in free speech only for the rational. Remember also Popper's graveyard of dead scientific theories. Many medical treatments are not proven effective. Have you read the book "Overtreated"?<BR/><BR/>If you argue that man is fallible, why do you get upset with religious people who fail sometimes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-78959777636940071212008-02-27T12:21:00.000-08:002008-02-27T12:21:00.000-08:00"Why with all their science background do they sti...<I>"Why with all their science background do they still believe in God?"</I><BR/><BR/>I posted my theory <A HREF="http://surgeonsblog.blogspot.com/2007/11/no-alternative.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-61496767729180508932008-02-27T12:11:00.000-08:002008-02-27T12:11:00.000-08:00C'mon...no way is he real! ???Yes you are right......C'mon...no way is he real! ???<BR/><BR/>Yes you are right...subject to interpretation. I have heard the best of theologians disagree on some issues. But, there are still some basic truths that they would be in agreement with.<BR/><BR/>Humans are fallible.<BR/><BR/>You are a stellar surgeon. But let's say you have an assistant in the surgery that does something wrong and because of his mistake you get pulled into the accusation or mix -up because he is connected to you. Your name is now getting tarnished by association. Not fair and even wrong. And it doesn't negate the fact that you are a good surgeon who holds yourself to the highest standards. People are now associating you with the other surgeon. Maybe that isn't a good analogy. Every profession as their nut jobs but what is the real message or standard of the profession.<BR/><BR/>If he is real...sigh.<BR/><BR/>(This isn't what I wrote yesterday)<BR/>Mnaybe I will come back and address one comment to your post.SeaSprayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906503090688697222noreply@blogger.com