tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post2982081172832591928..comments2024-02-18T13:53:30.168-08:00Comments on Surgeonsblog: Floored!Sid Schwabhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-49812066144762712272007-02-27T07:24:00.000-08:002007-02-27T07:24:00.000-08:00not the most appetizing pollack.not the most appetizing pollack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-51963189264906988982007-02-26T20:25:00.000-08:002007-02-26T20:25:00.000-08:00I'm impressed with the ingenuity expressed here. I...I'm impressed with the ingenuity expressed here. I do look at my shoe covers. Remaining scrubbed in, I've never had to resort to the other methods, although I've seen the magnet roller used to good effect. I think the "shovel" method ought to be tried, if for no other reason than to hope someone who was involved with floor-pattern selection would wander by and see what it'd come to.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-68838205312311496592007-02-26T20:07:00.000-08:002007-02-26T20:07:00.000-08:00If the floor was reasonably flat, you could slide ...If the floor was reasonably flat, you could slide a sheet of paper (heavy paper if you've got it) in your hand something like a snow shovel.<BR/>Shouldn't take too long to cover the floor if you go back and forth like a farmer plowing a field.Greg Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18422487877167541900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-74924403543637026022007-02-26T13:25:00.000-08:002007-02-26T13:25:00.000-08:00Glad you like the flashlight idea, you won't be di...Glad you like the flashlight idea, you won't be disappointed.<BR/><BR/>I confess to submitting the following somewhat smugly:<BR/><BR/>http://www.haverford.edu/writingprogram/Asimov.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-62897431936182748232007-02-26T12:31:00.000-08:002007-02-26T12:31:00.000-08:00Try finding a 9-0 BV needle on the patterned floor...Try finding a 9-0 BV needle on the patterned floor - im-freaking-possible. Our OR floor is probably similar to your - dirty off-white with lots of little gray lines. Grr. . .Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02837315387527204393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-39403637584788359022007-02-26T11:36:00.000-08:002007-02-26T11:36:00.000-08:00Now THAT is a really good one! I'm trying it, if t...Now THAT is a really good one! I'm trying it, if there's a next time. Which there undoubtedly will be.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-87874833466785830902007-02-26T11:26:00.000-08:002007-02-26T11:26:00.000-08:00Rotating a flashlight on the floor is fantasticall...Rotating a flashlight on the floor is fantastically effective, though you would need to dim the lights first. I learned this from a gunsmith.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-74737149256238560152007-02-26T08:54:00.000-08:002007-02-26T08:54:00.000-08:00Echo Doc, so that's why all the doors in the hospi...Echo Doc, so <I>that's</I> why all the doors in the hospital--including the cancer center's infusion treatment area's--weigh 400 pounds. And there I was, thinking that my health-care providers wanted me to try to push open that incredibly heavy bathroom door whilst dragging along an IV pump in my weakened physical state because they somehow thought it was good physical therapy for me.<BR/> <BR/>I remember my surgeon telling me, post-laparotomy, that I wasn't to be lifting anything any heavier than the phone book. I asked if someone was going to eventually come get me if I found myself leaning fruitlessly against some door in the hospital, trying to lever it open with my cachectic little arse. I mean, sure, that won't open a belly wound like lifting a heavy object, but it has its Kafka-esque moments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-28411248192985832132007-02-25T17:54:00.000-08:002007-02-25T17:54:00.000-08:00The picture is not of the actual floor, but it's r...The picture is not of the actual floor, but it's really pretty darn close! It's a Pollack painting, in fact.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-91375213256488859942007-02-25T13:15:00.000-08:002007-02-25T13:15:00.000-08:00Re: clueless architectsMy hubby's an architect who...Re: clueless architects<BR/><BR/>My hubby's an architect who once did a school project, at my suggestion, on redesigning the ICU to be more nurse/patient-care friendly. He LOVES to talk to people about how they plan on using a space -still does this years into his own practice.<BR/><BR/>The nurses that night were delighted to talk to him and even drew up a list of a dozen helpful suggestions. <BR/><BR/>As in "For the love of G--, please don't put the light switches on the post behind the patient's bed. Intubated, sedated critically ill people can't always help you turn the lights on or off!" and "Please find a slot to push the bedside commode in, out of the way."<BR/><BR/>Turns out, when a new ward or O.R. is built- no one ever gets the architect hooked up to talk to the people who will have to use it.<BR/><BR/>The architectural planning committee does spend hours, however, talking to paper pushing types, donors and administrators. <BR/><BR/>Echo DocView from the Trekanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08811435898947430343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-73630085957542883702007-02-25T02:24:00.000-08:002007-02-25T02:24:00.000-08:00Seriously, is that really the floor of your OR in ...Seriously, is that really the floor of your OR in the pic? I don’t see, why anyone should bother searching on the floor. It’s way worse than looking for the proverbial needle in the haystack. The nurse who found it must have a really sharp eye!!<BR/><BR/>Here in India, in government hospitals the floors are tan or off-white linoleum mostly. After a particularly lengthy operation it ends up looking like a battle has just been fought there.Indian Medichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14267863624450677014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-11128067181265196272007-02-24T16:58:00.000-08:002007-02-24T16:58:00.000-08:00Great post.The Magnet thing is good, but also look...Great post.<BR/><BR/>The Magnet thing is good, but also look on the shoe covers! Many a needle in on the cover or the sole of a foot. I hate the incorrect needle count when a 7-0 on a BV2 is lost - it does not show up on Xrays - too small! Thank the Lord for my loupes. At least I can be sure the needle is not in my carotid incision...<BR/><BR/>The first commenter reminded me of OSHA and the "safety" needles and scalpels we now suffer with in the OR. An OSHA engineer has never used any of that stuff in real patient care. Ah well, don't get me started.DocInKYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10194035113134004874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-71903302866727368872007-02-24T14:40:00.000-08:002007-02-24T14:40:00.000-08:00I love your story. As a scrub nurse who has done a...I love your story. As a scrub nurse who has done a lot of open heart and microvascular surgies, I know all to well about the missing needle(s). I have also worked in hundreds of OR's and have seen very few friendly flooring surfaces. I have seen the hard to find magnets and the nurses on their knees running white towels across the floor hoping to find that needle.<BR/><BR/>Think about this. The needles do go somewhere. Many are not found......until later. Hmmmm <BR/><BR/>I vote for solid color floors with no specklly thingysAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-37757249690351570082007-02-24T12:22:00.000-08:002007-02-24T12:22:00.000-08:00I've never tested; are suture needle magnetic?If s...I've never tested; are suture needle magnetic?<BR/><BR/>If so, get one of those nice magnets-on-a-stick and keep it in the OR; you'd need three or four, since they'd get lost/stolen. Then a stray needle could deliver itself magically, and the hunt would end quickly.<BR/><BR/>Dang, I should have patented that first...<BR/><BR/>GruntDocAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-86498505031131145122007-02-24T12:02:00.000-08:002007-02-24T12:02:00.000-08:00well, at least you don't operate above haystacks ;...well, at least you don't operate above haystacks ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-71376481184215820962007-02-24T11:53:00.000-08:002007-02-24T11:53:00.000-08:00Yes! :)Yes! :)SeaSprayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906503090688697222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-64815889437573840882007-02-24T08:56:00.000-08:002007-02-24T08:56:00.000-08:00fabulous post. and i'm glad you tried so hard to ...fabulous post. and i'm glad you tried so hard to find these mysterious and jumpy items.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30499448.post-16028824195122490292007-02-24T08:21:00.000-08:002007-02-24T08:21:00.000-08:00Lord, but I love this post. I work in finance--at ...Lord, but I love this post.<BR/> <BR/>I work in finance--at a pretty high level, thanks--and it doesn't take much to get me off onto a rant about why the HELL we let anyone anywhere NEAR a set of loan closing documents with a BLACK GEL PEN. Do we just WANT to throw away A WEEK'S PROFIT on having clerks pore over that stuff for hours trying to distinguish the ORIGINALS from the COPIES??? <BR/> <BR/>Every industry has somebody somewhere whose entire function is to defeat everyone else's purposes in these passive-aggressive fashions. The problem is that if your hospital fires them, they'll just come work at my bank. I, on the other hand, am going to fire my closing manager, which will provide you with a new Facilities Specialist.<BR/> <BR/>Unless you surgeons can figure out how to suture those stupidectomies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com